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MFB
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« on: April 02, 2007, 01:16:40 AM »

Hi,

What do you guys advice regarding these devices? Im sold to the Garmin Forerunner 305. But if there's a more paddling specific device, please post info.
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2007, 02:26:53 AM »

I haven't found a better device.  The Forerunner 305 works really well for me - apart from using it to record routes & races, I've used it a lot for interval training. 

It's also great in races - the guys use them to detect when they've hit currents and so on so it's useful from a tactical point of view.

I've found the 305 quite robust - especially compared with the old 301 model.

It terms of service, here in South Africa I've only heard good things about the agents - they're very reasonable and replace/repair very quickly.

There is a very active newsgroup on Yahoo - go to www.yahoogroups.com and look at the garminf newsgroup.  They are very knowledgeable and answer questions very quickly. 
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2007, 06:18:24 AM »

Thanks for the reassurance with regards to the forerunner 305. Wish it could keep track of the stroke rate too instead of just cadence (for bikes!)  Im just waiting for a quotation with our local distributor. I rather get it thru him than risking buying from Amazon or some site.  When your paddling and there's a current you want to record, how do you keep track of that while your hands are paddling? I assume your 305 is strapped on your foot strap.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2007, 06:27:30 AM »

I assume your 305 is strapped on your foot strap.

I used to put it on the foot strap, but my Mako6 has bungi (elastic) cords on the front bulkhead on of the cockpit and I put the unit there.  V10s have bungi cords there too.  If you keep it on your wrist, the speed readings tend to go funny - it measures the speed of your wrist! 

NB: having said that the 305 is more robust than the 301, it still requires looking after.  I broke one by dropping it onto concrete - the seal broke and it started leaking and eventually died.  Rinsing every time you use it is vital.
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2007, 07:35:33 AM »

With regard to the map software on the GARMIN 305 and 301, not very much detail.
How would I go about downloading my track from GPS onto the Google satellite photo's, soemthing similair to some of the tracking shown previously on the website, like Oscar's 2k swim on the North Coast.
Thanks.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2007, 10:07:25 AM »

Hi Neal

How would I go about downloading my track from GPS onto the Google satellite photo's,

There are a couple of easy ways: one is to use MotionBased - check out www.motionbased.com - they have a free account option.  You download the MotionBased agent which is a piece of software that allows you to connect to your forerunner and to upload directly to your account at Motionbased.  Once uploaded, MotionBased has an option that allows you to view your tracks in google.

The second, and arguably easier, way is to use SportTracks.  This is free software that acts as a replacement for the Garmin Training Center.  SportTracks also has an option that allows you to export your tracks direct to google earth.

You can get sporttracks (free) from

http://www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/

I guess this would form the basis of an article for the site...!

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2007, 11:22:24 PM »

I assume your 305 is strapped on your foot strap.

I used to put it on the foot strap, but my Mako6 has bungi (elastic) cords on the front bulkhead on of the cockpit and I put the unit there. 

Can you post a picture of your set up?
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2007, 09:24:11 PM »

Do you know if this software works for the foretrex 101 as well - If I get the cable do I need to also get the garmin software or will the software you have quoted work?
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2007, 12:54:20 AM »

While being fairly expensive, the Garmin Mapsource software with the SA hydrographic charts loaded (Bluechart Atlantic V6.5 or later) is awesome in the level of detail and great for planning  new routes.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2007, 12:41:38 PM »

I use Garmin Mapsource and Blue Charts in the Pacific North West.  I find the value to be very worthwhile and I regularly plot training / race routes as well as download and review my race routes. 

For race directors, it is great service tool to be able to plot out your race course and then print up / e.mail detailed maps for participants.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2007, 03:25:56 PM »

Do you know if this software works for the foretrex 101 as well - If I get the cable do I need to also get the garmin software or will the software you have quoted work?
The Foretrex is on the list of supported devices for SportTracks so I guess it will work.  You don't need the Garmin software to use SportTracks.
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2007, 04:31:54 AM »

Any suggestions on how to mount the 305 on the ski?
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2007, 09:42:40 AM »

There's a photo of the unit mounted on the footstrap in the article here:

http://surfski.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=134&Itemid=38

Best to roll up a piece of foam rubber or something so that the unit is held steady.  I'll take a shot of the thing mounted on the bungi cords on my Mako6 too.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2007, 10:06:32 AM »

Have just got my 305 as a grey import from Amazon.com, and haven't had a chance to play with it yet.  What is the best setting to use, running, cycling or other? Can one change the speed setting to km/h instead of min/km?
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2007, 12:43:22 AM »

Any suggestions on how to mount the 305 on the ski?



Works just great right there - visible & mounted on shock absorbers  Smiley

Sometimes wobble a bit when leaning forward to press the lap button!
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