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Written by Erik Borgnes   
Saturday, 21 June 2008

The new Fenn Mako Elite has now been out for, what, 8 months?  And, like others, I've been looking for a thorough review of the ski but haven't seen one.  So, exercising fiduciary irresponsibility, I went ahead and purchased one before I had seen or paddled it. 

Fenn Mako Elite
Fenn Mako Elite (pic: www.oceanpaddlesports.com)

First Impressions

I have since paddled it once - in one long race.  Now, you might question the validity of a review of a ski that has been paddled once and, if so, then that would be normal.  But, there is value in a first impression and the longer you own and paddle one particular ski, you tend to lose the sense of how it compares to your last ski.  I won't commercialize this review by comparing the Elite across brands, but I will compare the Elite to the other Fenn racing skis - the Mako 6 (hereafter referred to as the "6") and the millennium.

I'm in the USA, and many of the ski paddlers here do not regularly paddle in ocean swell, shore breaks, or regular big downwind runs.  Many of us buy skis based on how they perform on flat water, wind chop up to 4-6 ft / 2 m, and on rough and confused waters.

About the Author

A little about me: I paddled a carbon Mako 6 for the past 18 months with a 1 inch / 3 cm seat pad, and a carbon millennium (with the same height seat pad) for several years before that.  These boats feel very stable to me in most all conditions.  I'm now 5'10" / 178 cm tall (was 5'11" but compressed a lumbar disc!), 195 lbs / 88 kg, 43 years old.  I really like the 6.  It was a great improvement over the millennium in so many ways.   I sold my 6 about a month ago and have been using a millennium for the past few weeks, so I've had the privilege of re-acquaintance with that old friend.  I now hate having double foot-wells because if you learned to use good leg drive, you can't avoid tilting the ski left-right-left with your stroke.  Plus, being more "locked" in the millennium seat bucket, with less ability to get leg drive and pelvic rotation, made my low back start to hurt again.

Carbon Mako Elite

Starting off, I sat in the carbon Elite for the first time on the grass the day before a 20 mile (30 km) race.  What I noticed immediately is that the rear of the seat bucket has a better shape than the 6, as it tips the paddler forwards a bit.  I found the 6 and millennium seats to encourage a bit of a slouch in my posture.  The Elite's seat bucket width and shape is otherwise similar to the 6 at the bottom of the seat, but the top of the seat bucket is quite a bit narrower than the 6, maybe 2 cm narrower.   It's probably pretty similar to the original millennium in seat width both at the bottom and top of the seat bucket. 

Fenn Mako Elite
Fenn Mako Elite (Pic: www.oceanpaddlesports.com)

As a reference, I'm a bit on the wide side as far as hip width is concerned, and I don't fit into most ICF K1's unless their seats are at the highest setting.  I might have been comfortable in the Elite without a seat pad, but I had no problems with the seat bucket width with the seat pad in place.  The foot-well area seemed similar to the 6 in size and shape - you can't get too excited about a single foot-well nowadays because they are all pretty nice. 

For the race setup, I pimped the boat by adding a tight and solid foot pullbar - K1 style (made by duct taping a 1/2" diameter pvc pipe to the footstrap), taping in a closed cell foam seat pad (1 inch / 3 cm high), and taping in some padding on the inside edges of the seat rim (which I didn't really need).

Slightly less Twitchy

On the water, the Elite felt slightly less twitchy at a standstill than either the Mako 6 or the millennium.  Leaning it over (still at rest) there wasn't any edge, just a smooth roll that didn't drop off a cliff like a K1 does.  At speed (6-8 mph / 10-13 kph) on flatwater, the elite felt very solid and that relatively good primary stability was still there and even improved.   I found the steering response on flat water to be much less than that of the 6 - which can throw you from the saddle if you do a "hardover" with the rudder, but the Elite's less responsive steering was not necessarily bad.

The long race that I did proved to be a good testing ground as it had all sorts of conditions ranging from glassy flat, glassy with small boat wake, i.e. the kind that is a bit unsettling as it leans you side-to-side.  There were honest 2-3+ foot / 1m beam wind waves and boat wakes, the same size waves rear-quartering, in straight downwind, and accompanying a full frontal headwind.  There was quite a bit of mixed up and confused water formed by refractory waves, tidal current waves, and boat wake.

Fenn Mako Elite
Fenn Mako Elite (pic: Rob Mousley)

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Narrow Ski

The Elite is a narrow ski, and it feels quite narrow - but that's not necessarily bad, either.  As a narrow ski, with a rounder and narrower hull, it seemed to react to waves differently.  On a millennium or a 6, beam waves or quartering waves seem to lift you up and tilt you left or right a bit.  On the Elite, I seemed to get tilted a bit less which made me feel more stable - as long as I kept my center of gravity over the center of that narrower ski.

I didn't feel that the wind blew me around too much or that the volume in the bow was too much or too little.  It just seemed about right - and similar to that of the 6, whereas the millennium seems to have the bow volume or shape not quite right.

Fenn Mako Elite
Cockpit Features - Fenn Mako Elite (Pic: www.oceanpaddlesports.com)

Downwind Paddling

I thought that the Elite caught waves easily and surfed very well, but I don't think that the boat is inherently "faster" in a downwind, it just has a different feel.  In the millennium and on the 6, when I'm just about to drop into a wave, that momentary position sometimes feels a bit precarious.  You feel a bit perched up high, ready to fall one way or another.  I didn't really encounter that in the Elite.  It seemed to go nose down onto waves and into troughs just before I got that nervous "perched" feeling.  My guess, "as a couch engineer", is that the Elite's narrower and longer bow starts dropping into the wave a hair earlier while its rudder stays planted for a longer time. 

The Elite gathers speed on the wave normally and has that floating feeling almost as good as the 6 has, whereas I find the millennium to give a rather bumpy and wild ride.  While the Elite steers sluggishly on the flats compared to the 6, it steered perfectly well on waves, and my rudder never felt like it broke free over several miles of steep 3 foot confused wave surfing.  I also never felt as if I were about to broach or give a hard brace during the race, though using the 6 in those conditions might have been similar in all honesty. 

I also didn't find myself over-steering or under-steering to get from one wave to another or while turning off of a wave.  Transitioning from one wave to another, the Elite kept that solid feel and predictable steering.  I have been told that some feel the Elite goes up and over smaller waves downwind better or keeps its speed downwind better than the 6 does, but that's something that's hard for me to either agree or disagree with at this point.  With the hulls so similar in dimensions, I can't see how one could have a significantly easier time going through or over a wave in front of you.  But, although I really like the 6 downwind, I could be convinced that I'd be marginally faster downwind on the Elite - not because it's a faster ski - but because it feels more stable / less twitchy, the steering seems more predictable, and because of this, I might  miss fewer power strokes dropping into waves.

When going downwind and catching runs, to a certain extent, I don't think that it matters all that much how "fast" a particular ski is because we're all limited by the speed of the wave that we're on and by the wave immediately in front of and to the sides of us.   The fastest paddler on a downwind might simply be the one who misses the fewest waves.   And, if you are confident on your ski and are not missing any strokes by bracing, then that's about the best you can ask for.  This past spring, I completed the Culebra Challenge on a Fenn Mako XT, and used that ski because of the unavailability of a "faster" boat.  It was a downwind race with good surfing for most of the course.  The point here is that and I don't think that I would have been significantly faster on a 6, had one been available.

Upwind and flat water paddling

Upwind and on the flats, it's hard to be certain about its speed with just one test.  I also couldn't tell a difference in speed between the6 and the millennium on flat water.  The Elite is at least as fast as the comparable skis like the 6 and those from other manufacturers. 

And, seeing that many of the top South African paddlers who used to race 6's have changed over to the Elite kind of tells one that the Elite is not a slower boat.

Erik Borgnes, Fenn Mako Elite
Erik Borgnes paddling his new Fenn Mako Elite (pic: Erik Borgnes)

Final Thoughts

So, as for my final thoughts:  I really like the new Mako Elite - more than I like the Mako 6.  Compared to the 6, the Elite is a narrower boat, and it feels narrower on the water.  The Elite has a more comfortable seat than the 6 or millennium (which is subjective, obviously).   It's less twitchy than the 6 (though I don't find the 6 very twitchy), and some of this may be due to a less responsive feel from the rudder.  It tracks well and rolls side to side less with your stroke compared to the 6.   On rough water, it kept some of that improved primary stability and gave me a bit more confidence while surfing and while transitioning from one wave to another as compared to the 6.  The new Elite adds slightly more directional stability to the otherwise very successful 6, albeit in a narrower package.  It's not a ski for everyone and not a beginner/intermediate's ski, and when I say that the Elite is more stable than the 6, it's a barely perceptible marginally more stable type of thing that you would only feel if you have pretty good stability to begin with.

If you are using a millennium, and want to stay with a Fenn for some reason, then you ought to move to the Elite if you can.  It's another great hull from Keith Fenn, and the double to single footwell change is huge.  The big question though comes from the current fleet of 6 paddlers:  should they change over to the Elite?  The answer is not a slam dunk as the differences are subtle and a changeover will likely not significantly improve one's times or placings in races.  If you worship your 6, then stay with it.  If you don't like the 6's seat, or want just a little bit more directional stability or a bit less rudder response then give the Elite a try.

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written by Txski, June 21, 2008
Hey Erik, off the subject a bit but just wondering how you've been dealing with your low back issues. I have the same prob and tend to harass anyone else similar while looking for some relief. I paddle the Mako 6, find it very comfy and ergonomic but just the act of taking a stroke often causes a flare up. Is this sport just bad for us????
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written by MFB, June 22, 2008
Hi Eric and Txski,

Did you guys undergo a laminectomy for that compressed disc? I had the operation done way back 93 as per my doctor's suggestion. It might have been different if it happened now. How are you guys dealing with the low back pain? My low back issues were relieved when I started running, doing core exercises and yoga poses. Greatest relief was the use of an inversion table. Wife gave me a Teether table for christmas.
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written by MFB, June 22, 2008
I wanted to purchase an Elite back in February. However I went for the mako 6 instead as Oceanpaddlesports advised me that I would be somewhere at the end of the order list.
Thanks for your review as it validated why I have the Mako 6 instead of the Elite. smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by Txski, June 22, 2008
Tried the epidural injections but those lasted about as long as an advil. Doc says the only thing they can do is a fusion.....and that aint happening. So like you said, keeping a strong core is a necessity but doing deep long stretches, especially hips flexors, works best for me. Sad to say, but boat time has seemed to make it worse lately. Sadder thing is, I'm a UPS driver and 37 years old.
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written by nell, June 22, 2008
"low back issues" has the potential to be a long and heated topic, so I put a response on the forum. I'm also predicting that Rob or Alain would do that anyway.
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written by Txski, June 22, 2008
Hey, great review on the Fenn Elite Erik. Nice job!!!
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written by Owen Phillips, June 22, 2008
Hi guys, What exactly is a Teether table? Guess I should google it. Had my failed nucleotomy and successfull laminectomy back in '91 and generally speaking, the back has been great since then. When I do get the inevitable occaisional set-back (usually after picking up water-filled skis to put on the roof rack) I`ve found that a short 10 - 15 minute jog works wonders to straighten things out in the lumbar region. Thanks for the other tips guys. Maybe we should start a new `bad backs` thread?
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written by Txski, June 22, 2008
here's a Teeter brand inversion table
http://www.sitincomfort.com/inprod.html?src=overture
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Leg drive/boat tilt connection?
written by S. Hansen, June 23, 2008
I don't understand the connection between divided footwell and tilting the boat upon leg drive? Is it a matter of legs touching the divider and/or outside of footwell? I would think having a low hump between the footwell and the seat would help leg drive and hip rotation.
One possible negative I see with the single footwell is if one is knock-kneed. It could put the knees too close together and/or put the hips in an awkward position.It would be interesting to survey customer satisfaction with single footwells.
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Leg Drive/Tilt
written by Dave R, June 23, 2008
With a single footwell you can position your feet closer together(and along the boats centerline) than with a double footwell, eliminating boat rock. The hump between the footwell and seat definitely affects leg drive in a ski. It's the main reason I had to rule out a Huki for myself. The hump height and/or location wouldn't allow me to drive with my legs hardly at all. In order to get any drive at all I'd have to adjust the footpedals short and force a very high knee position that I didn't find comfortable at all. The Fenn cockpit was much more suited to my paddling style and comfort.
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knock knees
written by Dave R, June 23, 2008
According to one person I know who has knock knees, once your legs are bent (as in a good paddling position) the knock knees are not an issue any more. It would only be an issue if both legs were extended straight at the same time which they wouldn't be when paddling. For reference they paddle a Mako 6.
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The Review
written by Dave R, June 23, 2008
Erik,
Thanks for writing up that excellent review on the Mako Elite. It's one of the most well written and most helpfull I've seen. Hope you do more write up's in the future.
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written by Gavin Gottschalk, June 23, 2008
Erik, thanks for the review.
With reference to the following quotations from your review:
"..on the 6, when I'm just about to drop into a wave, that momentary position sometimes feels a bit precarious. You feel a bit perched up high, ready to fall one way or another..", "..or a 6, beam waves or quartering waves seem to lift you up and tilt you left or right a bit..", "...rolls side to side less with your stroke compared to the 6..."
I recently sold my Mako 6 (having only ever paddled an XT prior to that, so no experience of a Millenium) mainly because of the feeling of rolling especially as I was about to take off on a run- it made me feel unstable and as if I was going to possibly fall out. This definitely limited my confidence in putting in the big strokes to catch the run. When I mentioned this to other paddlers, especially those who love their Mako 6, I was met with uncomprehending blank looks... Anyhow, I feel somewhat validated that someone else experienced something similar. For what it's worth, I'm now on a Robberg Express and very happy.
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boat roll
written by nell, June 24, 2008
Gavin,
Since I submitted this article, I've received a couple of emails from good paddlers stating that they felt this "twitchi-ness" or what ever you want to call it. Some feel it and some don't and it's not a big issue, really. But, I found that it improved considerably after I taped in some closed cell foam on the inside edges of the seat bucket, which didn't so much squeeze me, but kind of dampened any roll of the hull in most situations. I think that cockpit fit is pretty individual and it can make or break a ski for a paddler - some like it loose and others need to feel the sides a bit. Glad you're liking the Robberg. Seem to remember that having a pretty narrow seat, but I thought it was a nice ski when I demo'd one.
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mako6 and bad backs
written by Steven D, July 03, 2008
I have 4 prolapsed discs and anyone who has this sort of headache will know what's it like. At the age of 51 i'm quite fit but i did my first back injury when i was 28....so i do the swimming thing 3-4 times a week and Yoga twice a week. You can never quite predict when your back is going to flare up. But doing nothing is worse than not having a go. You will simply cease up.
I'm very very new to this sport infact i don't own a ski yet and only ever borrowed them but i am getting a 6 which is on order in 2-3 months.
I have surfed all my life and been hang gliding for a number of years. My advise to anyone with a bad back is don't be stupid with what you but don't sit on your A.. waiting for wonder cures because they are a long way off. What everyone says about core strength is spot on.
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Fenn, Epic or Red7
written by Rob, July 23, 2008
I'm about to purchase a new ski. I have been paddling spec skis and K1's for 10 years however for the past two years I have been paddling ocean skis and have never looked back. I currently paddle a carbon Mako6 but I'm about to update. The problem is I can't decide between the following skis, another carbon mako6 or elite, V10 ultra or elite or a carbon red7pro. I'm open to any suggestions about any of the mentioned skis. I would like to hear from other people regarding which of these skis they like or dislike. AS for the V10 elite are they a ski that can be used all the time or is it best to keep them for race days only.
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written by Jefferson, August 05, 2008
Hi Erik - Great review... I?ve been on a Mako 6 for a while and wouldn?t change too much except for the ?twitchiness? I continue to feel in the boat? The Elite looks like it ?may? solve my problems.

Do you (or anyone) have any comparisons of the Elite with the Huki S1-X (or S1-X Special)?
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Mako Elite Huki S1X Special
written by Mark Buck, August 05, 2008
I currently have a HUKI S1X Special and a Mako Elite. I previously owned a Mako 6 and a HUKI S1X. I like both skis and both manufacturers, so rather than submit a long post about what I see as the differences I would rather respond directly. Send me your email address if you would like a longer writeup. This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it

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written by nell, August 06, 2008
Jefferson, I can't honestly compare the Makos with the Hukis because I haven't logged enough time in the latter ones.

As far as the "twitchiness" goes, the Elite does seem to feel a bit more planted on the water - both on waves and on the flats. It is narrower, though, so your balance needs to be centered over a very slightly narrower ski. While this doesn't intuitively make much sense (narrower and more stable), it's kind of like comparing the feel of two skis - one with a slightly higher seat and the other with a slightly lower seat. The higher seat one will feel a bit twitchier. Also, while I haven't measured the seat heights on the 6 and the Elite, they feel about the same to me.

It's a tough call whether or not it's worth it to go from a 6 to an Elite if you really like the 6. For me, it was the right decision because the Elite's seat shape fits me better (it keeps you forwards a bit more) and I already had a buyer for my 6.

One thing that you could try with your 6 is to tape or glue in some closed cell foam pads onto the inside surface of the sides of the seat - up at the seat rim. Make it so the foam barely touches your sides when you're sitting flat in the ski. What this will do is to both dampen the roll of the ski and allow you to better sense the rolling torque present. For me, it's made both the 6 and the Elite significantly more stable - particularly on squirrelly water.
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