tank.gif
Interview: Jude Turczynski of Huki Surfskis and Outrigger Canoes Print E-mail
User Rating: / 6
PoorBest 
Written by Steve Hansen   
Saturday, 20 September 2008

If you come to the U.S. Surfski Championships in San Francisco you will see a lot of Huki surfskis. These popular northern California surfskis are the work of Jude Turczynski.

Jude Turczynski
Jude Turczynski

In addition to being known for custom color schemes and custom lay-up options, their craftsmanship and innovations are second to none. Paddling is Jude Turczynski's life. When not building surfskis and outrigger canoes or on the phone, Jude can be found racing and generously supporting the local racing scene. I talked to Jude in June about surfskis.

Huki skis
'...custom color schemes...' Huki paddlers


Background

Where did you grow up?  Mainly in the Sacramento Valley of Northern California with time in Canada, Alaska, Oregon, and other places along the Pacific North West.

How old are you? 49

Inquiring minds want to know about your name.  My father was Pennsylvania Dutch-Pollock and my Filipina mother had a penchant for Saint Jude. 

What does ‘Huki' mean?  Pull. It's the command that's shouted by the steers-people in the line up at the start of a race.

Tell me about your paddling background. I understand you have done Molokai a couple of times in an OC6.  What kind of conditions did you have?  Any harrowing tales?  I started paddling OC6 in my late twenties and built my own one-man traditional canoe because there were only two brands on the market that I knew of and I couldn't afford either one of them even in fiberglass.  I built my own traditional OC2 in 1990 with instruction from Jerry Montgomery, the master sailboat designer and builder.  I raced these two boats to many championship wins.  I've only crossed Molokai twice steering in the OC6.  Conditions were nine to twelve foot seas with the entire canoe and everyone's head covered by the swell at once.

How often do you paddle now?  Not enough.

Jude Turczynski, Huki
Jude & friend paddling (what's that on the tail? Read on!)

Boat building

How and when did you get started building outrigger canoes and surfskis?  Building canoes for me became a business building canoes for other people.  I got into surfskis and started building those too.

Are surfskis and outriggers pretty made the same way regardless of who the manufacturer is?  Do some boats have stringers?  There are more ways to build surfskis and canoes than I could even list and every company is using some variation and combination of the methods.  Most surfskis and boats have stringers and each maker chooses their own stringer style.

What makes your outriggers and surfskis unique construction-wise?  I offer a dozen different construction types and each one in turn offers an advantage in either price, weight, durability, or a combination thereof.  The customer basically gets to determine which structure fits their needs.

What's the ratio of surfskis to outriggers that you produce?  It's pretty much 50-50.

You are located in Sacramento, not on the coast of California, is that a problem, advantage, or not an issue?
Sacramento is only 40 minutes from the Bay and for a lot of commuters on the mainland I could be living 15 miles from the ocean with the same commute time.  Customers come to Sacramento to demo my canoes and surfskis on the large rivers we have all the time.  There's no issue.

Do you sell more surfskis in Northern California or Southern?  I sell a lot more surfskis in Northern California than in Southern Cal but I've been working hard to improve SoCal sales.

Where else in the world are you selling surfskis?  My sales are mostly throughout the North American continent and Hawaii with occasional sales in Europe, Asia, and so on.
Design

Your first surfski was the John Dixon designed S1-A that premiered in 2003.  Can you tell me how that came about and what you learned from John and that experience?  John wanted a surfski that really fit him well and I offered to build the first skis from his new mold at a reasonable price if he would allow me to manufacture and market the skis commercially.  His hull design taught me and Jerry Montgommery that a nearly flat surfski hull could be a fast hull if you controlled issues, such as wetted surface area, prismatic co-efficient, beam, and rocker.  We started to analyze design in a whole new way. 

When you came out with the S1-X it was very popular, were you surprised?  The market was ready for a stable surfski that would fit almost anyone.  After many long conversations with Mike Shea and Dave Jensen about what surfskis of the day lacked and what they did well, Jerry and I came up with the S1-X.  We gave her a round hull with a sudden turn in the sides below the waterline that made it look like a flat bottom.  In addition, she got fairly consistent rocker from end to end, and a narrow catch zone.  The S1-X caught on fast locally and discussion on newly formed email groups spread its reputation farther.

You've gone from a relatively thick rudder to a very thin one.  What's the thinking on that?  I'm just trying to make customers happy.  Racers like a rudder that slices through the water when traveling straight ahead.  A thick rudder on the other hand has a very efficient turn but most racers spend very little time turning.

You moved the rudder farther forward on the S1-X special to improve steering in surfing conditions.  What happens if you move it even farther forward?  As the rudder position moves farther forward along the waterline it loses leverage and the potential for YAW increases but these are rough water boats and the waterline spends a great deal of time farther forward than it does in flat water.

From time to time there is talk about surfskis suited to women and to light men.  The S1-A seems to be that boat but a bit too tippy for most paddlers.  Have you thought about a redesign for the ‘A'? No, I haven't but I have thought about another version of the S1-X.

Jude Turczynski.
Jude with a Huki S2-X (There it is again - that 'gull wing' - like something out of Star Wars!)

The Future

Where can surfski design go from here?  What's ahead for Huki?  As the number of surfski paddlers increases I imagine there will be a demand for more specialized surfskis.  The paddlers will ultimately drive development, no matter what and Huki will be there to design what they want

Thanks for your time..

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk about paddling.

Steve Hansen is an avid paddler from the Sacramento area that wishes he got to the San Francisco Bay more often to paddle.


Gull-wing

[Editor: That gull-wing attachment in the photos that Steve sent us intrigued me - particularly as my friend Kathleen "HukiGirl" Petereit from British Colombia also sent me a couple of pics of herself in a gull-wing equipped S1-X...

Huki S1-X plus Gull Wing
HukiGirl paddling a Gull Wing equiped S1-X
 

"I tried Huki's new Gullwing today," wrote HukiGirl. "This thing is freakin' amazing. I could not dump the ski, check out the pic.

"This will add a whole new safety dimension for those big water days and for winter paddling for us," she added.

Kathleen Petereit and the Huki Gull Wing
'I could not dump the ski' HukiGirl tries out the Gull Wing

I wrote to Jude himself to ask about this innovative idea.

"The Gull Wing was inspired my fiance's need for a super stable surfski that was still super fast," he said. "I think it holds great promise for all paddlers who feel insecure in really big seas.

"The Gull Wing mounts to almost any surfski and kayak with internally retro fitted reinforcements to the deck and seams. All Huki surfskis are easily and quickly retro fitted, including our tandem ski.

"After initial installation, removing the Gull Wing takes only a minute by unscrewing four small thumb screws...NO TOOLS. You can paddle with or without it. The wing weighs 7 pounds and is pretty darn tough. A properly done retro it should have no more problems with breakage than outrigger canoes."

US$800 for a Gull Wing kit. Installation is US$200.

The Gull Wing is patent pending."]


Hits: 2558
Comments (11)Add Comment
Great boats and a great person
written by doncraigdesign, September 20, 2008
Jude makes beautiful and solid products that perform wonderfully. What makes it additionally enjoyable is what a great person he is as well. Thanks for making such great skis Jude.

Don
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +7
Huki
written by Gavin Dickinson, September 21, 2008
Out of interest can anybody tell me what the highest placed Huki ski was in the 2008 US Champs? The 'Gull Wing' looks like a great enhancement to help people get used to riding big swell.I do wonder how it would stand up to being bashed about in big beach break surf (which for lot's of guys is where all the trouble starts) Well done Jude.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
RE: Huki
written by Kenneth Howell, September 22, 2008
Gavin, If I'm not mistaken, 16th place by Mike McNulty of Santa Cruz California was the highest place for Huki in the race yesterday. In the doubles race today, I think the Huki double was second with Bevan Manson and Craig Nortje on board. Regarding the Gull Wing, you should have seen Dawid standing up and paddling one of the Hukis with it - gondolier style. The whole weekend was a BIG FUN freakin' party, as usual. Great competition, with world class competitors. We missed you, as well as all of other wild and crazy Dubai Dudes. smilies/grin.gif
-Kenny
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
San Fran
written by Gavin Dickinson, September 22, 2008
Cheers Kenny.

Soon there will be a direct flight to the west coast of the USA on Emirates Airline, and more Dubai boys will make the trip out. It is a fantastic race in a great city. We hope that some of you boys will come play in the $100 000 Shamaal race as well one day. I wonder if the US Champs should look to move closer to the timing of the Molo, so that once the guys are all in that part of the World it is easy to do more than 1 event. Just a thought.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
Continued Kudos for Jude
written by Trilobite, September 22, 2008
Would like to echo those with positive experiences buying Huki boats. Had the pleasure of purchasing an S1-R from Jude and would hands down buy another of his boats. He took the time to match the layup and accessories to my needs, and although his boats might be a bit more than the standard vanilla off the shelf models (smile) offered by other manufacturers, you're getting a quality product produced by, as one friend puts it, someone who's in the business of 'selling happiness.' I love this boat. Every dealing with him has been an absolute pleasure; from my experiences, he bends over backwards to make sure that when you're paddling Huki, you've a smile on your face.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +3
Howzit go ?
written by onnopaddle, September 22, 2008
Behind every good man there is great woman ? Keep up the hard work Jude.

aloha,
pog
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
custom fit ski made by Huki
written by Kathleen Petereit, September 25, 2008
This is how cool Jude is. I emailed him about my friend Wolf who is too stocky to fit in a regular ski. This guy is solid muscle with legs like tree trunks. Jude thought about it and said he could make a ski to fit him. It took a lot of extra work to make this custom fit ski. Wolf came by tonight to pick up his ski from my house and was ecstatic after he sat in it...I couldn't wipe the smile off his face !

Kathleen
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +2
Some Questions
written by Dale Lippstreu, September 30, 2008
I would really like to know what "prismatic co-efficient" is and how it effects hull design. Also Jude says that "a nearly flat surfski hull could be a fast hull if you controlled issues such as wetted area &..........rocker". Does he mean flat as in "flat bottomed" or flat as in "with very little rocker"?
One of the things that interests me is the fact that designers can adopt highly divergent approaches and still achieve good outcomes. The V10 and Mako6 are 2 good examples. When the V10 appeared I put its speed and stability down to its minimal rocker and a broad/flat high volume tail. I thought that Fenn would have to adopt the same approach to achieve a ski with comparable speed and stability but the Mako6 has high rocker with minimal tail volume with a round section. It is is just as stable and clearly very competitive in terms of speed. It all goes to show that there are many ways to solve design problems.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +1
...
written by Jim Murray, September 30, 2008
Re Questions: prismatic coefficient is the number describing rate of change of the cross sectional area of a hull over its length. It will directly affect wetted surface and wave[making] resistance. "Flat" in canoe/kayak is a relative term. The faster boats have a cross sectional area approaching a "V" shape- but they are not stable. The more that V shape rounds out to a flat bottom, the more stable it becomes, but with a loss in hull speed. Rocker and where to put it always eluded me, not being a designer. The best way to learn about these things is to start building, but......
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
durability
written by Kathleen Petereit, October 03, 2008
I was slammed about quite a bit at the USSSC with the wing but not in shore break. I think it can take quite a bit of abuse. Maybe he can make it in different construction types like he does his skis. If you look on his website you can see the many construction options he has from ultralight to bombproof. Good question. I will see what I can find out.

Kathleen
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
durability of gullwing
written by Kathleen Petereit, October 04, 2008
Jude said they designed and built the wing to support itself in a tumble through big off shore seas in shredded wind blown 20 footers. He's seen full, head on high speed collisions with steel bouys without disabling damage. They can build a wing for playing in the surfers zone, and have a dozen different construction types to choose from. Hope that helps.

Kathleen
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0

Write comment
You must be logged in to a comment. Please register if you do not have an account yet.

busy
 
Next >

Surveys Popup

Dragon Run Predictions

 Man Dragon Run 2008

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Man Dragon Run takes place on Saturday 22 November 2008 in Hong Kong.

Predict the results!