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1 week 5 days ago - 1 week 4 days ago #28828 by downwinda
A couple weeks ago Pat Dolan broke the OC-1 record for the Ka'iwi (Molokai) Channel with a time of 3:31.06. This is only about 10 minutes off of Dean Gardiner's long standing record surfski time of 3:21.

Pat is absolutely on fire this year, and equally as adept in a surfski as he is in an OC-1, making him my choice to pull off the double and also win it in the surfski next week. Good luck Pat, and bring the victory home for Hawaii!

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1 week 4 days ago #28835 by LaPerouseBay
Pat Dolan fan here too.

10 days out, the forecast is less than ideal. I hope the wind behaves. I was hoping for big wind for Oscar. Fingers crossed.

downwind dilettante

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1 day 13 hours ago #28845 by davgdavg
Winds pretty darn calm on Kauai. Looks like the forecast might have been right. :(

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1 day 4 hours ago #28848 by downwinda
Yep, bummer. It looks like a hot slog for all involved.

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1 day 42 minutes ago #28853 by LaPerouseBay
Agreed, the trades just are not cooperating. Here are the models I use to have a look at what's going on. The good news is that a fetch is setting up ok swells from the east. The big boys will have the power to get something from those.

earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isoba.../loc=-157.488,21.281

If you left click on a position, a window pops up with wind speed at the location, marked with the green circle. On the drop down menu, the 'Control' line provides forward and back in time.

This model is tougher to read, but it's something from UH.

www.soest.hawaii.edu/MET/Faculty/wrf/arw/arw_maui.html#

I'm a wind junkie, so I use this free stuff. The windsurfers have some great stuff, but I think it requires a membership.

That's what I love about skis. Any wind at all - big or small - one boat, good fun.

Here's a clip of our fastest ski paddler here on Maui, on a big wind day.

He and I were recently chatting about Austin Keifer. Austin was visiting recently and did some of our local races (Had some windy conditions and set new records BTW). We have Kai Bartlett as a local and his numbers are staggering too. Unreal what the big boys can do on the water.

Mike says Austin and Pat are another level above him. I've never paddled with guys at Mike's level, but it looks like another sport for those guys! Mad skills. K-1 veterans are something else... Just fearless at warp speeds across big swells. Must be very exciting!

vimeo.com/195241682

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23 hours 43 minutes ago #28854 by photofr
The probabilities of getting great conditions on the Molokai are decreasing every year.

The truth hurts, but all the facts are there:
Hawaii is experiencing less and less "traditional tradewinds". The winds have shiffted fron Northeastern to Eastern.

The most alarming thing is that this isn't based on 5 or 6 years of data... but derived from more than 30 years of Hawaiian tradewind data.

Ludovic
(Brittany, France)

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19 hours 7 minutes ago #28858 by davgdavg

photofr wrote: The probabilities of getting great conditions on the Molokai are decreasing every year.

The truth hurts, but all the facts are there:
Hawaii is experiencing less and less "traditional tradewinds". The winds have shiffted fron Northeastern to Eastern.

The most alarming thing is that this isn't based on 5 or 6 years of data... but derived from more than 30 years of Hawaiian tradewind data.


Don't know the data, but anecdotally from Kauai, the trades have been howling this year for almost 2 months straight. Just bad luck this year that they finally dropped on the race weekend. (Remember that Pat Dolan set the OC1 record this year in those howling and pretty darn big conditions that I'm talking about). Seems the same as it ever was. Do you have a link to that data, I'd be interested in checking it out. Thanks.

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18 hours 14 minutes ago #28861 by LaPerouseBay
I'd be interested in that data also.

Anyone have a link to any site that has updates on the Molokai Race?

I'm not a social media Facebook/twitter etc.

I"ve seen some twitter feeds in other races that were amazing. Anything like that around? Facebook usually lets me watch a thread for a few minutes before booting me. Greedy bastards. 2 billion subscribers isn't enough?

I heard a rumor years ago that Molokai competitors have real time GPS tagging.
I'd like to see what lines they take. They vary widely from what I hear and may have a big effect on the results. Maybe they could delay it so it doesn't affect strategy, who knows. But... nothing?

Seems odd to me that a world championship has so little coverage. I suppose the insiders have cellphone updates from their pals on escort boats. But what about everyone else? Seems odd to me.

Big race. Nothing online that I can find....

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18 hours ago #28862 by photofr
Don't get me wrong: we have seen some really good days in Hawaii since 1981 - and they are still present today - but the frequency is definitely at a decrease.

Here's the leader Hawaiian Tradewinds
www.hawaii.edu/news/article.php?aId=5358

Ludovic
(Brittany, France)
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17 hours 51 minutes ago #28863 by photofr

LaPerouseBay wrote: I'd be interested in that data also.

Seems odd to me that a world championship has so little coverage. I suppose the insiders have cellphone updates from their pals on escort boats. But what about everyone else? Seems odd to me.

Big race. Nothing online that I can find....



2017 UPDATE
Here's what I think is odd - for our entire sport:
As far as I know, there was only one full-LIVE-coverage for the Molokai race. It was manned by (obviously) a non-professional cameraman/woman. The race commentator (a legend) didn't seem to know that much about surfskis. As usual, you are going to be hard-pressed to find numerous quality photographs of the race -

All in all, there were only 47 single skis entering this race.
All in all, there were a max of about 320 online viewers at a time.

The lack of professional coverage could be affecting the entire sport - but very few people want to invest in this great sport.

Ludovic
(Brittany, France)

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