New PFD Recommendations

1 year 9 months ago #29974 by [email protected]
Hi everyone,

I am a new ski paddler (long time sea kayaker), and just got a new Epic V7. I've noticed that my current PFD makes re-mounting difficult. The PFD sticks out pretty far from my chest (all of the material is on the front side) and makes it hard to hoist my body up. I can do it, but it seems harder than it should be. Are there any PFDs you would recommend with a lower profile, or perhaps a more even distribution of material?

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1 year 9 months ago #29975 by WingSuit
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Mocke

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1 year 9 months ago - 1 year 9 months ago #29977 by LakeMan
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You don't need a PFD with the V7. It's stable enough not to fall out of it.

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

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1 year 9 months ago #29979 by zachhandler
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Sarcasm is hard to convey in text. Don't confuse a beginner. He needs a PFD! We all need a PFD!

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1 year 9 months ago #29980 by zachhandler
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You have a leash right? Safety wise a leash is probably much more important than a pfd. You should have both though.

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1 year 9 months ago #29981 by davgdavg
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Mocke's are very comfy and cool. (I wouldn't buy the XL though, from what I've been told its the same size as the L and just has more foam, which I can't imagine is necessary in salt water. Unfortunately I got told that too late, so its a little bulkier than necessary. :( )

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1 year 9 months ago #29982 by WingSuit
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If you’re not going to wear a pfd in certain situations that you deem safe make sure you practice swimming/treading water with no hands, cause you’ll have your boat in one hand and your paddle in the other.

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1 year 9 months ago #29983 by zachhandler
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I thought it was the opposite? I thought the xl was identical to the L but simply with longer sidestraps to allow for more girth. There are two charts on the mocke website that seem to give contradictory info.

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1 year 9 months ago #29984 by [email protected]
The Mocke looks great, though it is a tad pricier than I would like. I do have a leash and I would never go out on the water without a PFD, regardless of conditions. It's something I have worn on every kayaking trip for the past 12 years, and as a solo paddler, it's just common sense, for me at least.

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1 year 9 months ago #29987 by LakeMan
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I apologise for joking around. We all need a PFD no matter what we paddle. I always have one with me (though I don't always wear it depending on conditions and air temps).

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Winston Churchill

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1 year 9 months ago #29989 by nell
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Another pfd to look at is the one sold by Nelo. It's relatively low profile, and what I also like is that it has a strap that goes down, through your legs, and up to the back of the pfd. The strap keeps the pfd from riding up around your neck if you find yourself in the water, and because of this strap, the pfd doesn't have to be so tight around your chest. When you don't want to connect that strap, you can simply wrap it around the side strap so that it's out of the way.
EBorgnes

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1 year 9 months ago #29991 by Fath2o
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Years ago I had an XL Mocke (very expensive). I have a 48" chest, but, I'm only 5'9". It was uncomfortable due to the vest riding up into my chin. Definitely for a taller paddler. Gave it to my much taller buddy and he likes it.
To the OP; you may want to look at a wake boarding PFD. I have a neoprene pull over vest that is very low profile, comfortable (no straps) and provides warmth in colder conditions. It is not USCG approved but not a concern for me. It makes remounts much easier.
For warmer conditions I have a decent paddling PFD I purchased from
West Marine for about $50.00. Honestly I rarely wear or have a PFD with me and put on my leash in windier conditions. My decisions are partly influenced having been a competitive swimmer and beach lifeguard.
But, make no mistake, I gear up with flares, VHF DSC handheld radio, a neoprene hood in my PFD pouch, leash, whistle etc. I also notify the Harbor Patrol before heading out in a Gale Force down coaster. I prefer to paddle alone so I can concentrate on my paddle and not be concerned about the safety of others.

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1 year 9 months ago - 1 year 9 months ago #30016 by Fath2o
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So for fun I took some pictures of what I use for personal flotation, when necessary, and well, another possibility. The first picture to the left shows a typical approved paddling jacket from West Marine @ $50.00. It is one size smaller than I should wear but just slides on with straps completely let out. Much less bulky that way. It provides 15.5 Lbs. of buoyancy. It has a small, almost useless zipper pocket and a sturdy carabiner strap that your leash could be attached to.
In the middle is my customized neoprene Hyperlight wake boarding vest. I added large pouches front and back with old wetsuit material, and the help of a local shoe repairman. I can carry a hydration bladder and safety equip. This vest fits nice and snug, helps keep me warm during spring downwinds and provides about 8 lbs of flotation. Not approved, but, allows for very easy remounts.
The inflatable rashguard at right is actually designed for surfers to alleviate chest and neck strain while paddling a surf board. It just donned on me though, that it could be used for some flotation assistance that possibly someone could find useful. It is manually inflated and provides around 7 lbs. of bouancy. I can tell you it makes it difficult for me to duckdive under waves.
So for what it is worth, there you go for some pfd alternatives.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Impala, jateureka

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1 year 9 months ago #30019 by jazzman
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Look at the Vaikobi PFD. Lower profile than the Mocke ( I have both ), no hassle to remount.

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1 year 9 months ago #30021 by Impala
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Hi Fatho2,

interesting and funny collection ... thank you.

I am using a Mocke and generally like it, but not its tendency to swim up, and so I added a crutch strap to keep it down (if you happen to use one, see to not pull it too tight, as otherwise you shock-squeeze your bollocks when scrambling to remount ... not nice, really). Another aspect is that the front pocket is open upwards, so anything stored in it should be somehow tied to not lose your phone etc when falling in.

Anyhow, I find the buoyancy of most PFDs too low. If then a 2l-bladder is added, the buoyancy effect is further reduced. I feel comfy with 70N, not the usual 50N, but there is no 70N vest on the market with a 2l bladder pocket. So Fatho2's idea to just sew a pouch to the back of the vest yourself seems a possible way out.

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1 year 9 months ago #30028 by topswimmer
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I don't know where you are based but look up the Baltic PFD very slim profile & a the pockets for a flare drink bladder etc.

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1 year 9 months ago #30030 by Impala
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"look up the Baltic PFD"

Thanks, tried this, but there are lots of different models, only front photos, and no information on buoyancy or additional features. Really funny, but the website features a h...t gal ...

www.baltic.se/en/

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1 year 9 months ago #30032 by kwolfe
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I have an NRS ninja. My only pfd I've owned but I don't have any complaints. Low profile, easy to remount.

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1 year 9 months ago #30104 by owenw
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Here in Australia you have to wear a Code complying PFD whenever you paddle; be it racing, training, etc (except in some rare cases where official exemption has been given by the Authorities). On the east coast here most racers (ocean or flatwater) seem to favour the minimalistic Vaikobi. Others regularly seen included similar styles by Ocean Paddler, APS, etc with some favouring the more bulky Mocke due to its claimed superior ventilation; (its usually hot around this way). I wear an Ocean Paddler model oceanpaddler.com/online-store/oceanpaddler-pfd-high-vis/

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1 year 9 months ago #30108 by Cerca Trova
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I have a Mocke, Stohlquist Rocker, and a Vaikobi. Hands down I prefer the Vaikobi as it's cooler, the easiest for remounts, and dries the quickest.

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