Epic Ultra vs Elite

8 years 4 months ago #11927 by hamishglen
Is it worth the extra $$?
The look of the Carbon Elite is amazing, but am a little nervous about the lack of a gel coat - even though I am an extremely careful person..
Anything I should be aware of with the Elite?

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8 years 4 months ago #11931 by AR_convert
Replied by AR_convert on topic Re: Epic Ultra vs Elite
Just an observation, almost all the guys I've known who have had that lay-up have sold them and not replaced them with the same lay-up.

Current - Carbonology"Flash" Vajda "Infusion II K1" Previously ~Finn"Molokai Mk II"~Knysna "Vantage Pro K1' Carbonology "Vault"~Epic"V10L & Sport"~ [/b]Fenn"Mill Double" ~Spirit"PRS"~Finn"Affinity"
Always looking for the next boat :)

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8 years 4 months ago #11959 by hamishglen
Replied by hamishglen on topic Re: Epic Ultra vs Elite
any idea why? a 'longevity' issue?

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8 years 4 months ago #11960 by Kayaker Greg
Re the Stellar full carbon vs the Excel you pay a lot of extra money for a 1kg weight saving. I know a couple of guys with them and they look terrible with scratches where as my Excel with the gel coat still looks new after 18 months use. One of the paddlers with the full carbon version that I know wishes that he had got the Excel for that reason.

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8 years 3 months ago #12125 by hamishglen
Replied by hamishglen on topic Re: Epic Ultra vs Elite
Does anyone have a 'pure carbon' elite and could offer their opinion/advice?
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8 years 3 months ago #12126 by Marieski
Replied by Marieski on topic Re: Epic Ultra vs Elite
I may have said this too many times already, but I found the carbon Epic V10L, which I bought, much twitchier, more unstable and harder to remount than the performance version. I think this effect is magnified for small light people, because the boat is already floating higher in the water than optimal.

It was obviously lighter to carry around and noticeably faster to accelerate and jump onto runs, but this did not compensate for the stability issues. I wouldn't buy another carbon boat.

The market for reselling, and likelihood of getting much of your large investment back, is also smaller.

I had no issues with the fragility or otherwise of the construction or finish, but I tend not to bump my boats into things.

Past skis: Spirit PRS, EpicV10Sport Performance, Epic V10 Elite, Stellar SES Advantage. Current skis: Fenn Elite Spark, Fenn Swordfish vacuum. Custom Horizon, Epic V7

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8 years 3 months ago #12166 by jazzalbart
Replied by jazzalbart on topic Re: Epic Ultra vs Elite
I'll say Epic Ultra is far better than Elite. The Ultra construction is very light and popular with the fitness and racing paddlers. It is light, stiff, and extremely strong in the water. I'll always prefer to use Epic Ultra.

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