Surfski foiling: The dawn of a new era

2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #30121 by mamaru
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2 years 4 months ago #30122 by Cryder
Touch and go's are going to be lethal with that bow.

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2 years 4 months ago #30124 by supsherpa
With the size of the foil I imagine beach starts and launches are going to be quite challenging.

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2 years 4 months ago #30126 by Fath2o
I've been searching for my "Surfski 600". Maybe this is it!

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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #30128 by mamaru
Here as an supplement to the first post some examples of foiling sailboats:

- The Moth

- America's Cup Catamarans

- Hydroptere

- IMOCA 60 (Vendee Globe)

- Quant 23

Wouldn't the Quant look like the most accessible way to get a ski on wings?!

By the way, there seem to have been attempts with kayaks, too, but somehow there is no newer information:

- Flyak

Happy dreams!
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2 years 4 months ago - 2 years 4 months ago #30131 by AR_convert

supsherpa wrote: With the size of the foil I imagine beach starts and launches are going to be quite challenging.


Yeah, I'm struggling to think of anywhere I could launch it where I paddle if it were fixed.

Perhaps it is able to be retracted?

Some way of collapsing/removing it for transport?

Do you paddle out with it not attached and then fit it?

So many questions around this?

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Always looking for the next boat :)

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2 years 4 months ago #30140 by Uffilation
yeah, the V235-F solved the seat issue its own way though ... :laugh:

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2 years 4 months ago #30141 by Hiro
First surfski600... Now Revo foil ski... Call me Mr Killjoy if you wish, but I will believe this when I'll see some on the water footage.

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2 years 4 months ago #30142 by supsherpa
Footage is definitely required and not from on the deck. I want to see them from the side while in motion. From standstill and up onto full plane and back down.

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2 years 4 months ago #30146 by jbrings
Have been waiting for somebody to try this on a surfski!

Some questions do arise:

1. What length paddle would be used? 300cm?

2. There are some safety concerns also that need to be considered. Beach break zone, etc. what happens if you run out of swell, etc and actually need to paddle without foiling.

I personally think it can only feasibly be used in a very limited number of scenarios. Ideally with a support boat.

Very curious to see how this concept develops.I wish Revo luck getting this implemented.

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2 years 4 months ago #30147 by MCImes
Must. See. Video.

Very cool if this performs as advertised, but as others have said, what size paddle do you use? how do you get back to the beach? intentionally dump in 4' of water? How much cost does this add? (to an already expensive sport).

I wish the best for Revo. Hopefully this is a game changer that allows downwinds averaging 20kts! That said, ill take the 'didnt happen without video' stance until (video) proof is available :)

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Past Boats: Epic V10 g0, Stellar SR g1, Fenn XT g1
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2 years 3 months ago - 2 years 3 months ago #30471 by mamaru
In some way off topic, but there is so much development:

Flat Water SUP Foiling

Electric Hydrofoil Builders

And a nice clarification (for those who only use the Forum as I usually do, thank you, Rob!)

Revo Foil - Disrupting the Surfski World... by Rob Mousley

I keep on dreaming...

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1 year 10 months ago #31174 by AR_convert
So was this a serious attempt at making it accessible to the masses or just a marketing stunt?
Seemed to be a lot of hype built up and then....... Nothing

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1 year 10 months ago #31178 by tve
Looks like an april fool's joke to me!

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1 year 10 months ago #31180 by Fath2o
Hey careful, just celebrated my sons birthday on Sunday. No cardboard cake this year though. :laugh:

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1 year 10 months ago #31183 by robin.mousley

So was this a serious attempt at making it accessible to the masses or just a marketing stunt?
Seemed to be a lot of hype built up and then....... Nothing


Well... I check in with them every now and then, but they haven't made much progress since last year. I think it's possibly that it's more difficult than they thought and also that commercial priorities (like fulfilling orders) keep getting in the way.

Rob

Currently Fenn Swordfish S, Epic V10 Double.
Previously: Think Evo II, Carbonology Zest, Fenn Swordfish, Epic V10, Fenn Elite, Red7 Surf70 Pro, Epic V10 Sport, Genius Blu, Kayak Centre Zeplin, Fenn Mako6, Custom Kayaks ICON, Brian's Kayaks Molokai, Brian's Kayaks Wedge and several others...

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1 year 10 months ago #31185 by d0uglass
Watching videos of downwind SUP foiling, maintaining flight seems to require very active fore-aft trim, vertical pumping with the legs, and rail-pressure to turn. Trying to do it from a sitting position might just not work. The length of a surfski might also be counterproductive once foiling. Something with a stubby whitewater kayak design might foil better.

A kite-powered surfski foil might be more practical. I've seen videos of kite-foilers sitting on their boards and looking relatively relaxed while foiling along.

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1 year 10 months ago - 1 year 10 months ago #31188 by Fath2o
We have both SUP and kite foilers here. Absolutely amazing to watch. They just defy gravity and leave no wake, surreal. Watched a kite foiler go miles upwind and swell like there was no resistance. Kite surfing is huge here with our consistent winds and swell. An SUP foiler on a wave looks like CG animation. Mind blowing. The guys I've seen on SUP's are smooth as silk riding waves. Haven't witnessed any pumping.

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1 year 10 months ago #31192 by Cryder
Speaking of April Fool's jokes... this was my submission:

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1 year 5 months ago #32578 by mamaru
I still keep dreaming , but compared with SUP and kite foiling, development seems pretty slow in surfskis:

Foiling Surfski from Revo

(Thanks Jacek for pointing out this video!)

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