Nelo Viper 46 SOT

10 months 4 weeks ago #34927 by pprin
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I have done test paddles in both and really liked them.  I would say that the flat water stability and ergonomics are similar.  The Viper 46 SOT has the same hull as the Viper 46 which Nelo seems to class as a master's K1 or fitness boat.  It is far more stable than their other marathon or masters boats (Quattro Classic or Vintage).  Sitting in the 46 SOT feels like a K1 in terms of the really narrow catch but feels like a Nelo ski in terms of the seating position (lower than a K1 but perhaps higher than other manufacturer's skis).  There is no hump so great for leg drive.

In terms of differences to the 550, it has negligible rocker and would likely perform less well in waves.  I paddled the 46 SOT in a lake in a light wind for a few km and really enjoyed the ergonomics and glide.  Seems like a great boat for flat water and if it gets choppy you don't have the same concerns you would have in a K1.  The bailer works well - same design as their surfskis.  

I think the 46 SOT would be better than the 550 for a pure flat water boat in terms of glide but I have zero data to back that up.  My GPS numbers were similar in both boats.  The 550 would likely be more versatile but it won't meet ICF length rules.  I am 5'10 (178cm) and 180lbs (80kg).  Not sure how the 46 SOT would be for someone larger but I was nowhere near too heavy.

-pprin

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10 months 3 weeks ago #34931 by mrcharly
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These boats look great - someone here said bailers aren't allowed.

That seems strange. I know people who have pumps fitted and I've seen bailers on open canoes. This is in the UK. I've just searched the canoe racing handbook and neither are mentioned.

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10 months 3 weeks ago #34932 by uk gearmuncher
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mrcharly wrote: These boats look great - someone here said bailers aren't allowed.

That seems strange. I know people who have pumps fitted and I've seen bailers on open canoes. This is in the UK. I've just searched the canoe racing handbook and neither are mentioned.


You could race it in the UK. Surfski's are already allowed in marathon/Hasler races in particular here. In fact, my own personal debate between the 550 and the Viper was based on wanting to race it in a few next year.

Previous Boat Journey: Gaisford spec ski, then Fenn Bluefin, then Epic V8 Pro, Now a Epic V10 Sport and a Nelo 550L.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #36423 by Paddle California
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We have a review on the Nelo Viper 46 surfski - on our website here:
https://nelous.com/blogs/nelo-usa-west-coast-blog/viper-46-surfski-review

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2 months 3 weeks ago #36434 by uk gearmuncher
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Paddle California wrote: We have a review on the Nelo Viper 46 surfski - on our website here:
https://nelous.com/blogs/nelo-usa-west-coast-blog/viper-46-surfski-review


It's great to finally have someone review the boat - I've liked the look of this one for a while and I already love my 550L. However, it would be nice if we could get a balanced review for a change - i.e. pro's, con's, limitations and not just an elaboration of the marketing brochure.

Previous Boat Journey: Gaisford spec ski, then Fenn Bluefin, then Epic V8 Pro, Now a Epic V10 Sport and a Nelo 550L.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #36453 by Paddle California
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uk gearmuncher wrote: However, it would be nice if we could get a balanced review for a change - i.e. pro's, con's, limitations and not just an elaboration of the marketing brochure.

Thanks for the feedback, we have updated our Viper 46 Surfski Review - with a pro's and con's section. If you have specific questions about the boat - write them in the comments on the blog post and we will be happy to answer them for you.
That link to the review again:  https://nelous.com/blogs/nelo-usa-west-coast-blog/viper-46-surfski-review
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2 months 3 weeks ago - 2 months 3 weeks ago #36458 by ErikE
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mrcharly wrote: These boats look great - someone here said bailers aren't allowed.

That seems strange. I know people who have pumps fitted and I've seen bailers on open canoes. This is in the UK. I've just searched the canoe racing handbook and neither are mentioned.


(yes, I know I'm a bit late with this reply ...)

Someone may have been referring to the ICF rules for marathon racing ( www.canoeicf.com/sites/default/files/rules_marathon_2019.pdf ), which says

3.5.1.aManually operated pumps may be fitted in both canoes and kayaks;

3.5.1.bBailers which interrupt the line of the hull are not permitted;

[/size]Not all marathon races apply strict ICF rules of course, but if you want to be sure you'll be allowed to participate in any race you want, you may want to take those paragraphs into account.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #36460 by uk gearmuncher
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Paddle California wrote:

uk gearmuncher wrote: However, it would be nice if we could get a balanced review for a change - i.e. pro's, con's, limitations and not just an elaboration of the marketing brochure.

Thanks for the feedback, we have updated our Viper 46 Surfski Review - with a pro's and con's section. If you have specific questions about the boat - write them in the comments on the blog post and we will be happy to answer them for you.
That link to the review again:  https://nelous.com/blogs/nelo-usa-west-coast-blog/viper-46-surfski-review


Nice touches ! Thanks for taking the time and making the effort - much appreciated.

Previous Boat Journey: Gaisford spec ski, then Fenn Bluefin, then Epic V8 Pro, Now a Epic V10 Sport and a Nelo 550L.

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