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09 Feb 2020 14:11
In 2013 there were about 50 ski designs on the list, today (January 22, 2020) it`s up to 244 and there must a few more out there that are absent. Feel free to let me know what`s wrong with/missing from the list.Happy paddling all!
Owen
(present set up: Stellar SEI 2G in Advantage lay-up, and Knysna Racing Delta L paddle.)


Surfski Width x Length Chart – January 4th 2019

Manufacturer Name of Ski Width Length

O'Krea Oya 40 605

Huki S1-Z 40.64 635
Huki S1-A 40.64 5588

Scofits Ayahavela SSR 41 633
Scofits Ayahavela Bullet 41 633
Knysna Mc Gregor Classic (2018) 41 590

Stellar SEA (June 2018-) 41.2 619.5

Carbonology K1 Downriver ski 41.5 520

Stellar SES 41.6 620

Neumann Adventure Racing 42 660
Vajda Orca 42 650
Think Uno (pre 2016) 42 648
DD3 Envy 42 645
Sipre Sea Vortex 42 645
Knysna Genius G40 (2018) 42 640
Nelo M/XL (2010) 42 640
DD3 Turbo G2 (2017) 42 638
Elio Mazu Pro I 42 627
Polledo Poseidon (2020)  42  615
Polledo Cantábrico (2020)  42  615

Fenn Elite SL 42.5 644
Fenn Elite Spark 42.5 644
Fenn Elite Glide 42.5 644
Fenn Elite Surge (2018) 42.5 582
Epic K1T  42.5 520

Kai Wa'a Vega (2018)  42.7  640

Allwave CX 42.8 640
Allwave DNA (August 2018) 42.8 640
Ocean Built Kona K-64 42.8 640
Ocean Built Konastorm KS-64 42.8 640

Epic V14 (2g) 42.9 640

Kayak Pro Oquendo 43 659
Zed Tech Dominator 43 658
Honcho Oceans Pro 43 647
Knysna Genius GTO (2018) 43 645
Opium Infinity 43 645
Think Uno (2016) 43 645

Think Uno Max 43 645
Fenn Mako Elite 43 644
Think Legend 43 643
DD3 Turbo (2012) 43 640
Epic V12 (2g) 43 640

Epic V14 (1g) 43 640
FG Lampu (Jan 2019) 43 640
Flow Kayaks Addict 43 640
Flow Kayaks Sharpski 43 640
Knysna Genius 40 (pre 2018) 43 640
Nordic Kayaks Nitro (to 2017) 43 640
Nordic Kayaks Nitro 64 (2018) 43 640

Revo R1 43 635
Carbonology Flash (2017) 43 635
Honcho Extreme 43 634
Vajda Next 43 630
Knysna Genius 20 43 628
Nordic Kayaks Fusion (2009) 43 625
Ozean OSS 2 43 6245

Elio Pro Elite 43 620
O'Krea Ozo 43 616
Carbonology Pulse 43 605
Knysna Mc Gregor Classic (2017) 43 600
Epic V11 1g (2017) 43 579
Sipre Ackua (2018) 43 575
Nordic Kayaks Rapido 1 Super 43 565

Huki S1-X 43.18 640

Epic V10 g1(2005-2012) 43.4 650
Epic V10L (old) 43.4 650

Red7 Surf70 43.5 660
DD3 XLR8 43.5 655
Ozean OSS I 43.5 6495
Stellar SEL 2G 43.5 645
Vajda Hawx 43.5 643.5

Epic V12 (g1) 43.5 640
Nordic Kayaks Nitro+ 43.5 640
Seabird 6.4 43.5 640
Vajda Hawx 43 43.5 633

Kayak Centre Eos 660 43.6 660

Custom Kayaks Bullet ?? 640

Ygara Xama 44 660
Stellar SEL 1G 44 655
DD3 Albatross Gen 6 44 650
DD3 Albatross 44 648
Opium Molokai 44 644

Kayak Sipre Sea Vortex + 44 642
Fenn Mako 6 44 640
Nelo XXL 44 640
Felci Yachts Windseeker 44 620
Knysna Genius BLU (2018) 44 620
Carbonology Pulse 44 610
Epic V10L (new) 44 615
Carbonology Pulse (2017) 44 600
Nordic Kayaks Nitro 60 (2017) 44 600
Carbonology Atom 44 595
Knysna Mac Mk.II (Sept. 2018) 44 590
Nordic Kayaks Rapido 2.0 44 585

Van Dusen Mohican 44.45 646.4

Stellar SE 44.5 655
Think Ion 44.5 642
Carbonology Flash (old) 44.5 635
Carbonology Switch 44.5 595
Knysna Mac Rhythm (before 2018) 44.5 590
Chalupski Oscar/Hummel 44.5 580

Epic V10 g2 (2013-2017) 45 645
Opium DW 45 645
Sipre Ackua Veloce (pre 2018) 45 645
Sipre Ackua Veloce (post 2018) 45 644
Icon Genesis 45 640
Nelo Vintage 45 640
Epic V10 g3 (2018) 45 625
Elio 45 45 610

Fenn Swordfish 45 610
Nordic Kayaks Storm 45 610
Nordic Kayaks Storm + (to 2017) 45 610
Nordic Kayaks Storm 61 (2018) 45 610
Zed Tech Griffin ++ 45 590
Nelo 560L 45 560

Nelo 560M/L 45 560
Nelo 560M 45 560
Sipre Ackua 560 45 560
O'Krea Marmousse 45 450

Knysna Mac Rhythm (from 2018) 45.5 590

Huki S1-XL 45.72 640

Allwave Volo 46 642
Custom Kayaks Focus 46 642
Custom Kayaks Synergy 46 642
Revo R2 46 635
Ozean OSS 3 46 6245
Knysna Genius BLU (pre 2018) 46 620
Carbonology Vault (2017b) 46 610
Stellar SEI 46 610
Scofits Ayahavela SSS (new)46 600
Vajda Hawx 46 46 590
Vajda Next 46 46 590
DD3 Magnum 46 580
Nelo 550 46 550
Nelo Viper 46 Ski  46  520

Carbonology Vault (2017a) 46.5 612
Scofits Ayahavela SSS (old) 46.5 598
DD3 Australis 46.5 580
DD3 Wahoo Sport 46.5 579
Nordic Kayaks Storm 57 (2017) 46.5 570

Huki S1-R 46.99 607

Honcho Rookie 47 647
Custom Kayaks Icon 47
Think Evo 3G (2016) 47 625
Zed Tech Dominator XL 47 620
Carbonology Vault (old) 47 595
Spirit Fury 47
FG Code Zero 47 580

Fenn XT (older) 47.5 600
Finn Molakai 47.5 590

Neumann Adventure 48 640
Revo R3 (2016) 48 635
Think Evo II 48 625
Carbonology Zest (old) 48 615
Kayak Pro Oquendo Sport 48 614

Epic V10 Sport (new) 48 610
Seabird 6.1 48 610
Bjorn Thomasson Spindrift 48 608
Revo R3 (2017) 48 605
Arrow 48 590
Polledo  Zeus (2020)  48  590
Stellar SR 48 584
Aquarius Coaster 48 580
Elio Fitness 48 580
Honcho Guevara 48 580

Knysna Genius CLK 48 580
Nordic Kayaks Squall 48 580
Ozean OSS 4 48 5795
Sipre Marlin M 48 578
Point Horizon 48 573
Custom Kayaks Horizon 48 560
Custom Kayaks Mentor 48 560
Think Jet 48 520
Aquarius Coda 48 400
Knysna Guppie 48 400

Think Six (January 2020) 48.25  600

Epic V10 Sport (old) 48.3 610

Kayak Centre Zeplin 48.5 660
Knysna Jester 48.5 457

Flow Kayaks Superstar 49 595
de Brito 59 49 590
Fenn Mako XT 49 588
Opium Moana 49 588

Lifesaving/Spec ski min.wid/max.len 49 580

Nordic Kayaks Squall + (to 2017) 49 580
Nordic Kayaks Squall 58 (2018) 49 580
Nordic Kayaks Squall 54 (2017) 49 540
Carbonology Splash 49 485

Carbonology Zest (old) 49.5 595

DD3 Maxx (2017) 50 600
Nordic Kayaks Breeze (`til 2015) 50 600
Carbonology Boost (2017a) 50 595
Honcho Guru 50 580
Spirit PRS 50 567
Bjorn Thomasson Spray 50 560
Allwave Genesi 50 520
Fenn Bonito 50 420
FG 420 Revo 50 420
Sipre Ackua Kid 50 420

Epic V8 Pro 50.5 579

Carbonology Boost (2017b) 51 595
Think Eze (pre 2016) 51 520
Think Eze (2016) 51 518
Spirit Racing Ski 51 496
Polledo Minisurfski (2020) 51  460

Stellar S18S G2 (from 2018) 51.2 550

Think Zen 52 560
Vajda Hawx 52 52 554
Vajda Next 52 52 554
Opium Rider 52 553
Vajda Raptor 52 530
Nelo 520 52 520

Knysna Genius RS 52.5 580

Fenn Blue-Fin 53 590
Vajda Oscar 53 559
Axis Kayaks S4 53 507
Axis Kayaks S2 53 460

Stellar S18S G1 (pre 2018) 53.3 550

Nordic Kayaks Exrcize 54 550
Sipre Ackua Fun (pre 2018) 54 550
Epic V8 (new) 54 548
Finn Endorfinn 54 522
Epic V7 54 520
Nordic Kayaks Breeze PE (2017) 54 505

Seabird 5.5 55 555
Sipre Ackua Fun (post 2018) 55 550
Elio 55 55 520
Nelo Viper 55 55 520
Nelo 510 55 510

Mirage 583 Freeride 55.5 580

Epic V8 (old) 55.88 548

de Brito 59w 56 590
Carbonology Cruz 56 550
Think Big Eze/Eze 56 538

Allwave Colibri 57 418

Stellar S16S 58.1 488

Epic V6 58.4 488

Cobra Eliminator 58.42 503

Epic V5 composite 60 436
Epic V5 plastic 60 426

Current Designs Ignite (2014) 60.96 487.68

Spirit Crosstrainer CTR 61 400

Stellar S14S 62.8 436

Current Designs 140 66.04 427


List first compiled by Owen on Okinawa, February, 2012.
Last up-dated February 2020.
Some info above may be incorrect or missing. Most measurements have been taken from manufacturers websites. Therefore, apologies in advance for any mistakes I`ve made. Please feel free to contact me with any information that should be adjusted or added:
[email protected]    
189cm 90~100kg
Present skis:
2017 Stellar SEI 2G
Epic V10 1st Gen
1993 Gaisford Spec Ski
1980s Pratt Spec Ski
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor
Previous
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor X 3
1987 Kevlar Chalupsky (Hummel) (Welsh copy!)
1988 Kevlar Double Chalupsky
1992 Hammerhead spec
2000 Fenn copy?
189cm 90~100kg189cm 90~100kg
Present skis:
2017 Stellar SEI 2G
1993 Gaisford Spec Ski
1980s Pratt Spec Ski
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor
Previous
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor X 3
1987 Kevlar Chalupsky (Hummel) (Welsh copy!)
1988 Kevlar Double Chalupsky
1992 Hammerhead spec
2000 Fenn copy189cm 90~100kg
Present skis:
2017 Stellar SEI 2G
2008? Epic V10 (1st edition)
1993 Gaisford Spec Ski
1980s Pratt Spec Ski
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor
Previous
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor X 3
1987 Kevlar Chalupsky (Hummel) (Welsh copy!)
1988 Kevlar Double Chalupsky
1992 Hammerhead spec
2000 Fenn copy
05 Feb 2020 11:32
Mine was taking on about the same amount of water and I found it was through the cutout for the bailer. This cutout on mine looks like it was cut by a drunk person-  photos.app.goo.gl/58EiBQWGFk6s5Mur9
When I removed the bailer I noticed the side closest to the front had the plastic edge cut away so I plastic welded it and now the hatch stays dry.
22 Jan 2020 13:58 - 26 Jan 2020 12:35
In 2013 there were about 50 ski designs on the list, today (January 22, 2020) it`s up to 240 and there must a few more out there that are absent. Feel free to let me know what`s wrong with/missing from the list.Happy paddling all!

Owen
(present set up: Stellar SEI 2G in Advantage lay-up, and Knysna Racing Delta L paddle.)


Surfski Width x Length Chart – January 4th 2019

Manufacturer Name of Ski Width Length

O'Krea Oya 40 605

Huki S1-Z 40.64 635
Huki S1-A 40.64 5588

Scofits Ayahavela SSR 41 633
Scofits Ayahavela Bullet 41 633
Knysna Mc Gregor Classic (2018) 41 590

Stellar SEA (June 2018-) 41.2 619.5

Carbonology K1 Downriver ski 41.5 520

Stellar SES 41.6 620

Neumann Adventure Racing 42 660
Vajda Orca 42 650
Think Uno (pre 2016) 42 648
DD3 Envy 42 645
Sipre Sea Vortex 42 645
Knysna Genius G40 (2018) 42 640
Nelo M/XL (2010) 42 640
DD3 Turbo G2 (2017) 42 638
Elio Mazu Pro I 42 627

Fenn Elite SL 42.5 644
Fenn Elite Spark 42.5 644
Fenn Elite Glide 42.5 644
Fenn Elite Surge (2018) 42.5 582
Epic K1T  42.5 520

Kai Wa'a Vega (2018)  42.7  640

Allwave CX 42.8 640
Allwave DNA (August 2018) 42.8 640
Ocean Built Kona K-64 42.8 640
Ocean Built Konastorm KS-64 42.8 640

Epic V14 (2g) 42.9 640

Kayak Pro Oquendo 43 659
Zed Tech Dominator 43 658
Honcho Oceans Pro 43 647
Knysna Genius GTO (2018) 43 645
Opium Infinity 43 645
Think Uno (2016) 43 645

Think Uno Max 43 645
Fenn Mako Elite 43 644
Think Legend 43 643
DD3 Turbo (2012) 43 640
Epic V12 (2g) 43 640

Epic V14 (1g) 43 640
FG Lampu (Jan 2019) 43 640
Flow Kayaks Addict 43 640
Flow Kayaks Sharpski 43 640
Knysna Genius 40 (pre 2018) 43 640
Nordic Kayaks Nitro (to 2017) 43 640
Nordic Kayaks Nitro 64 (2018) 43 640

Revo R1 43 635
Carbonology Flash (2017) 43 635
Honcho Extreme 43 634
Vajda Next 43 630
Knysna Genius 20 43 628
Nordic Kayaks Fusion (2009) 43 625
Ozean OSS 2 43 6245

Elio Pro Elite 43 620
O'Krea Ozo 43 616
Carbonology Pulse 43 605
Knysna Mc Gregor Classic (2017) 43 600
Epic V11 1g (2017) 43 579
Sipre Ackua (2018) 43 575
Nordic Kayaks Rapido 1 Super 43 565

Huki S1-X 43.18 640

Epic V10 g1(2005-2012) 43.4 650
Epic V10L (old) 43.4 650

Red7 Surf70 43.5 660
DD3 XLR8 43.5 655
Ozean OSS I 43.5 6495
Stellar SEL 2G 43.5 645
Vajda Hawx 43.5 643.5

Epic V12 (g1) 43.5 640
Nordic Kayaks Nitro+ 43.5 640
Seabird 6.4 43.5 640
Vajda Hawx 43 43.5 633

Kayak Centre Eos 660 43.6 660

Custom Kayaks Bullet ?? 640

Ygara Xama 44 660
Stellar SEL 1G 44 655
DD3 Albatross Gen 6 44 650
DD3 Albatross 44 648
Opium Molokai 44 644

Kayak Sipre Sea Vortex + 44 642
Fenn Mako 6 44 640
Nelo XXL 44 640
Felci Yachts Windseeker 44 620
Knysna Genius BLU (2018) 44 620
Carbonology Pulse 44 610
Epic V10L (new) 44 615
Carbonology Pulse (2017) 44 600
Nordic Kayaks Nitro 60 (2017) 44 600
Carbonology Atom 44 595
Knysna Mac Mk.II (Sept. 2018) 44 590
Nordic Kayaks Rapido 2.0 44 585

Van Dusen Mohican 44.45 646.4

Stellar SE 44.5 655
Think Ion 44.5 642
Carbonology Flash (old) 44.5 635
Carbonology Switch 44.5 595
Knysna Mac Rhythm (before 2018) 44.5 590
Chalupski Oscar/Hummel 44.5 580

Epic V10 g2 (2013-2017) 45 645
Opium DW 45 645
Sipre Ackua Veloce (pre 2018) 45 645
Sipre Ackua Veloce (post 2018) 45 644
Icon Genesis 45 640
Nelo Vintage 45 640
Epic V10 g3 (2018) 45 625
Elio 45 45 610

Fenn Swordfish 45 610
Nordic Kayaks Storm 45 610
Nordic Kayaks Storm + (to 2017) 45 610
Nordic Kayaks Storm 61 (2018) 45 610
Zed Tech Griffin ++ 45 590
Nelo 560L 45 560

Nelo 560M/L 45 560
Nelo 560M 45 560
Sipre Ackua 560 45 560
O'Krea Marmousse 45 450

Knysna Mac Rhythm (from 2018) 45.5 590

Huki S1-XL 45.72 640

Allwave Volo 46 642
Custom Kayaks Focus 46 642
Custom Kayaks Synergy 46 642
Revo R2 46 635
Ozean OSS 3 46 6245
Knysna Genius BLU (pre 2018) 46 620
Carbonology Vault (2017b) 46 610
Stellar SEI 46 610
Scofits Ayahavela SSS (new)46 600
Vajda Hawx 46 46 590
Vajda Next 46 46 590
DD3 Magnum 46 580
Nelo 550 46 550
Nelo Viper 46 Ski  46  520

Carbonology Vault (2017a) 46.5 612
Scofits Ayahavela SSS (old) 46.5 598
DD3 Australis 46.5 580
DD3 Wahoo Sport 46.5 579
Nordic Kayaks Storm 57 (2017) 46.5 570

Huki S1-R 46.99 607

Honcho Rookie 47 647
Custom Kayaks Icon 47
Think Evo 3G (2016) 47 625
Zed Tech Dominator XL 47 620
Carbonology Vault (old) 47 595
Spirit Fury 47
FG Code Zero 47 580

Fenn XT (older) 47.5 600
Finn Molakai 47.5 590

Neumann Adventure 48 640
Revo R3 (2016) 48 635
Think Evo II 48 625
Carbonology Zest (old) 48 615
Kayak Pro Oquendo Sport 48 614

Epic V10 Sport (new) 48 610
Seabird 6.1 48 610
Bjorn Thomasson Spindrift 48 608
Revo R3 (2017) 48 605
Arrow 48 590
Stellar SR 48 584
Aquarius Coaster 48 580
Elio Fitness 48 580
Honcho Guevara 48 580

Knysna Genius CLK 48 580
Nordic Kayaks Squall 48 580
Ozean OSS 4 48 5795
Sipre Marlin M 48 578
Point Horizon 48 573
Custom Kayaks Horizon 48 560
Custom Kayaks Mentor 48 560
Think Jet 48 520
Aquarius Coda 48 400
Knysna Guppie 48 400

Think Six (January 2020) 48.25  600

Epic V10 Sport (old) 48.3 610

Kayak Centre Zeplin 48.5 660
Knysna Jester 48.5 457

Flow Kayaks Superstar 49 595
de Brito 59 49 590
Fenn Mako XT 49 588
Opium Moana 49 588

Lifesaving/Spec ski min.wid/max.len 49 580

Nordic Kayaks Squall + (to 2017) 49 580
Nordic Kayaks Squall 58 (2018) 49 580
Nordic Kayaks Squall 54 (2017) 49 540
Carbonology Splash 49 485

Carbonology Zest (old) 49.5 595

DD3 Maxx (2017) 50 600
Nordic Kayaks Breeze (`til 2015) 50 600
Carbonology Boost (2017a) 50 595
Honcho Guru 50 580
Spirit PRS 50 567
Bjorn Thomasson Spray 50 560
Allwave Genesi 50 520
Fenn Bonito 50 420
FG 420 Revo 50 420
Sipre Ackua Kid 50 420

Epic V8 Pro 50.5 579

Carbonology Boost (2017b) 51 595
Think Eze (pre 2016) 51 520
Think Eze (2016) 51 518
Spirit Racing Ski 51 496

Stellar S18S G2 (from 2018) 51.2 550

Think Zen 52 560
Vajda Hawx 52 52 554
Vajda Next 52 52 554
Opium Rider 52 553
Vajda Raptor 52 530
Nelo 520 52 520

Knysna Genius RS 52.5 580

Fenn Blue-Fin 53 590
Vajda Oscar 53 559
Axis Kayaks S4 53 507
Axis Kayaks S2 53 460

Stellar S18S G1 (pre 2018) 53.3 550

Nordic Kayaks Exrcize 54 550
Sipre Ackua Fun (pre 2018) 54 550
Epic V8 (new) 54 548
Finn Endorfinn 54 522
Epic V7 54 520
Nordic Kayaks Breeze PE (2017) 54 505

Seabird 5.5 55 555
Sipre Ackua Fun (post 2018) 55 550
Elio 55 55 520
Nelo Viper 55 55 520
Nelo 510 55 510

Mirage 583 Freeride 55.5 580

Epic V8 (old) 55.88 548

de Brito 59w 56 590
Carbonology Cruz 56 550
Think Big Eze/Eze 56 538

Allwave Colibri 57 418

Stellar S16S 58.1 488

Epic V6 58.4 488

Cobra Eliminator 58.42 503

Epic V5 composite 60 436
Epic V5 plastic 60 426

Current Designs Ignite (2014) 60.96 487.68

Spirit Crosstrainer CTR 61 400

Stellar S14S 62.8 436

Current Designs 140 66.04 427


List first compiled by Owen on Okinawa, February, 2012.
Last up-dated January 2020.
Some info above may be incorrect or missing. Most measurements have been taken from manufacturers websites. Therefore, apologies in advance for any mistakes I`ve made. Please feel free to contact me with any information that should be adjusted or added:
[email protected]   
189cm 90~100kg
Present skis:
2017 Stellar SEI 2G
Epic V10 1st Gen
1993 Gaisford Spec Ski
1980s Pratt Spec Ski
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor
Previous
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor X 3
1987 Kevlar Chalupsky (Hummel) (Welsh copy!)
1988 Kevlar Double Chalupsky
1992 Hammerhead spec
2000 Fenn copy?
189cm 90~100kg189cm 90~100kg
Present skis:
2017 Stellar SEI 2G
1993 Gaisford Spec Ski
1980s Pratt Spec Ski
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor
Previous
1980s UK Surf Skis Ocean Razor X 3
1987 Kevlar Chalupsky (Hummel) (Welsh copy!)
1988 Kevlar Double Chalupsky
1992 Hammerhead spec
2000 Fenn copy
21 Jan 2020 06:54
Replied by Paddle Supplies on topic Surf ski hire Bali
Hi Benpaddle,

I am Marcel from Jakarta, Indonesia. I have couple of personal PE Surfski, NK Breeze and Epic V7. I am actually interested in growing the Surfski community in Indonesia. Please let me know if you have an interest or network to grow this sport. Btw, I have a kayak shop www.paddlesupplies.com , we are the importer and distributor for certain brands and I can ship to Bali and other places in Indonesia. at the moment we have some PE Surfski for sale at a good bargain. Cheers
06 Jan 2020 11:41
I’m looking to ship my surfski, an Epic V7, from the Netherlands to El Salvador, in a shared container. I have never seen a surfski in Salvadoran waters, my V7 might just be the first. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I’d love to connect with paddling Salvadorans.

Does anyone have any experience shipping a surfski, in a shared container, over a large distance? I’m particularly interested in a rough idea of the cost.  How much did you pay and from where-to-where did you ship.

When reviewing prospective shipping cost quotes, I’d like to have a better idea of which are too good to be true and which are outlandishly high.

Many Thanks,

Maarten
16 Dec 2019 21:00
I'm 6ft7 and 110kg. Started with a custom made Fenn XT back in 2006. I struggle with both length and width of most surfski cockpits. Can just fit into a Fenn Bluefin with the footplate on the longest setting but zero room for adjustment. Hand's down the best surfski for the bigger paddler has to be the Custom Kayaks' Zeplin. Intermediate ski that's super long at 6.6m and has a big nose with lots of volume but is a super stable ski in any conditions and also an epic downwind ski. All the bigger guys in CPT that have tried it still rave about it. I eventually killed my first one (glass) after many years and now paddle a carbon version. Not common but definitely an option. Have also paddled an Epic V10 Sport on the longest setting and have an Epic V7 for river paddling. 

Regards
Jean.
02 Dec 2019 03:50 - 07 Dec 2019 02:05
Hey All ,, I love my Epic V7 solution for a self centering rudder so thought I'd share .... Very clean and simple ... Parts needed = (1) Ideally Stainless spring and (2) self tapping screws to mount the ends of the spring into the rudder compartment hull area ... Go to Lowes/Home depot and get an assortment pact of small springs ( about $5) .  ..... Inside the rudder compartment just stretch a spring of the proper length ( pick any coil near the center of the spring  to start ) UNDER the flat silver brace that the pedal coords attach to ....The steering brace is now embedded in the springs coil near the center of the spring ... Then stretch the spring ends to reach the hull material on each side and use the 2 screws to mount the spring ends to the hull material .  ... You are done! ... THEN,, to get the rudder straight at all times ( When  there is no pressure on a pedal )  .. simply scoot the the brace into spring coil that leaves the rudder straight .... Done .. SO SO EASY ! ....    This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. if I can help ... Peace 
22 Nov 2019 01:38
Going from V8Pro to Evo will be a learning curve for sure. Wesley classifies it as "advanced intermediate" that would make a switch to a HP skis seem less shocking. It's a great skills building boat if that's what you are looking at and don't mind some initial pain.
Among the 3 boats I owned: V7, Evo II and Stellar SES, I feel that the distance between a V7 and Evo is quite a bit greater than between Evo and SES. After about a season in the Evo, I am able to stay upright on a SES and an old V10L in calm-sh conditions. At the moment I am faster in the Evo than in SES, but I am generally not fast so that's probably not saying all that much.
If you are looking for the Evo as more or less replacement for V8Pro then it's not going to work I suspect.
12 Nov 2019 05:41
just look at it was created by JBL
I started with SOTs,  all functional enough, none particularly appealing to the eye. I never stood in the garage and just looked at them.
Then I got my V5 and then the V7, these boats I do find visually appealing. Sometimes  in the evening or on cold rainy days I go to the garage and just look at my Epics. I find them calming and aesthetically pleasing.
And of course they are prettiest on the water!
Anybody else spend a little time  looking at their boats?
02 Nov 2019 17:44
Replied by Mark_D on topic Excited Beginner
Thanks everyone who comented. 
I will attempt to add photos below of the Fenn ski i am buying next week. To answer if it is a deep or shallow seat, it is a deep seat, and the owner says it should fit my 6ft height well. I know it is an older model, but my budget is limited to about $600. and that is the amount the owner accepted. I would have loved an Epic V7 or 8, but i just dont have thousands of dollars to put into a ski. 
As far as stability, if i have to i will fabricate some temporary lightweight outriggers that will at least keep me from getting too frustrated at first. I actually watched a youtube video today where a guy strapped "pool noodles" along the sides of his ski.. 
Truth be told, i am older and maybe not as strong as when i was 20, and i had cancer on my left ear that affected hearing in that ear, so my balance might not be as good as i hope it will, but i am determined to find away to row one of these things around the lake that is literally part of my backyard. Surfskis seem to be the most effortless energy efficient ways to enjoy and travel on the water. I doubt I'll ever paddle it in the ocean, or ride big waves, or race, or be anything but a novice paddler. I just want a fun, fast enjoyable way to exersise and enjoy my community lake. 
Im sure that my views and expectations will change after ive made a few paddles and actually know what it feels like, until then i have no idea what to expect or think about any of it.? But i know that this is the most exciting thing ive wanted to do in a long time, so ive already succeeded in actually following a dream, instead of just watching other people do it.. 
One of you asked about joining clubs or groups near me.? With exception to the coast where i dont get to very often, ive never seen a surfski here in central florida or seen anyone paddling one.? And thats odd because we have countless lakes everywhere around here, and there are boats in almost every driveway.? 
Anyways thanks very much for the comments. Photos below (i hope). 
01 Nov 2019 18:35
Replied by MCImes on topic Excited Beginner
Depending on your natural balance, fitness, and determination, a 19" boat is borderline ok for a beginner, but I forget if the spec skis are tippier than their beam suggests due to a higher seat. Maybe someone else can comment. If you had a fat kayak, it will be quite a change! if you're used to skinny sea kayaks (~20-21") it will be a little easier. If you find yourself constantly swimming after 10 paddles, it may be worth considering another (wider) boat in the 21"+ range like a Epic V7, V8, or a Fenn Bluefin etc. Some swimming is ok, but if the only thing you can concentrate on is not falling in after several paddles, that is not good. Florida has a ton of cheap boats if you watch closely. Like, nice boats for less than $1500 regularly come up. Florida has an excellent used ski market IMO. 

As for a first steps, watch some technique videos like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqXIF4ToUcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLT0l2qf3AQ
If you understand all of that info, you're off to an excellent start. 

Next, dont be afraid to tip over and remount. Practice it a lot. Even if you can handle staying in the ski, practice swimming and remounting every time you paddle until you have it down in your sleep. Knowing that you can remount anytime takes away all the fear and apprehension of falling out, making paddling much more enjoyable in any conditions. 

also, try and find a group to paddle with. you will learn a lot if you ask, and finding a local community will help shorten the learning curve. 

Welcome!
29 Oct 2019 05:31
Sounds like a hatch seal to me. Water wouldn't have traveled past the bulkhead. These bulkheads have breathing openings but they are located under the deck where steering lines are. You would have to be almost completely flooded for water to transfer to the storage compartment.
29 Oct 2019 04:18
It wouldn’t surprise me if the water had entered around the hatch cover if it did not have a tight seal. My own kayak has rubber hatch covers and they fit far more tightly than the one on the V7 did. Even though there were no waves, we paddled through an area where jetskiers and powerboaters were churning things up.

But the ski also had two taped-over places. Before starting out, when we pointed to one of them—which at that point was not taped and looked like a small hole—the rental rep said, “Oh, I told so-and-so to repair that!” and he rushed off to tape it. The hole he taped was in front of the footwell.

While I didn’t  measure the amount of water that got in, it was enough for my drybag to be floating.
28 Oct 2019 06:51
A pint in 2 hours? That's probably the same or more than a 20 year old sea kayak I used to own would take in each hatch.
Don't think water can travel easily through those bulkheads in a V7, so it must be the cover. My V7 used to take only enough to make the walls wet. Didn't even have to empty it, just wipe with a towel and leave open while in storage. Some water would come out of the front bung as well, but little and on some days it was dry. I think the bung would snort some water when I would capsize during remount drills and water was colder than air.
28 Oct 2019 05:03
I very recently rented a V7 and a V5. They had black rubber hatch covers similar to those on some sea kayaks. I, too, thought the fit was too loose, or soft. They were too easy to put on and off. The V7 seemed to have a leak somewhere; the hatch compartment would be dry upon starting, yet after two hours there was roughly a pint of water in the compartment. Whether the water entered through the hatch cover edges or from elsewhere I don’t know.
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