Think Six v Epic V9

1 year 4 months ago #36775 by Vman
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Interested in any experiences and thoughts of the new Think Six and V9 as I’m in process of deciding which as I move up from a v8 Ultra. 
I’m 1.94m and 85kg.
I paddled the new to Sydney Six today in harbour and was impressed with stability, comfort and snug fit. I’ll predominately use it offshore. 
I’ve had brief paddle of v9 inshore and found it familiar, stable and moved easily. I will try both offshore before making a decision. 
many thoughts welcomed. 

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1 year 4 months ago #36801 by Stefanus
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I've been paddling the V8 Pro for a couple of years and have just moved to the V9. Really like it.
I haven't paddled the Six but saw it for the first time the other day, looks like a nice ski.

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1 year 4 months ago #36802 by Epicpaddler
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I also have been paddling a v8pro for the past couple of years. Looking to advance to the next level. Did you find the v9 a big enough improvement over the v8pro?

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1 year 4 months ago - 1 year 4 months ago #36805 by Stefanus
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I have have only paddled the V9 a few times so my views are preliminary. I find it to be more nimble and quicker to react. Also nicer on the runners. Not sure about overall speed as I'm not a fast paddler but in theory it should be faster as well. The cockpit is 1 cm narrower which suits me as I have a slim build. It is also of course a bit less stable but still pretty solid.

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1 year 2 weeks ago #37448 by Vman
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After tests of the Nordic  Squall 580, Epic  V9 and Think 6 I  ordered an Elite construction Think 6, a couple of months ago and expect it anytime.
IIt a very subjective thing as they’re all very good boats, all beautifully finished, in end found its initial and secondary stability was going to give me broader range of use, the bucket was really comfortable and a closer fit For my build and easily accelerated onto runners. 
The the wait without a boat as my old V8 was stolen earlier in the year  is killing me

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11 months 2 weeks ago #37619 by Bitemekaos
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I have owned a Think Ion for the last couple of years and love it but struggled with it in bigger messier conditions. I took a punt and brought a Ex demo Think Six without testing it and couldn't be happier. In conditions that I struggled in I now have no drama's with it feels like everything has slowed down and become very predictable if that makes sense. I think if you feel comfortable in any of the newer intermediate ski's you will have fun, I chose the Six because of the comfort and the familiarity of paddling the Ion and have no drama jumping between both ski's. 

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11 months 2 weeks ago #37620 by Vman
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Thanks, I’m about to drive over to collect my Six after a 4 month wait for it, can’t wait to get out in the water 

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1 month 5 days ago #39032 by Salty Frog
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Really surprised that this topic didn't get more attention/interest.

Both the Think Six & the Epic V9 got me pretty excited. Thought that the world would have been alight with information.

I think that I might be in the market for one or the other when lockdown is over unless I find I need a reality check & really only suit a beginner ski.

I'll be trying before I buy but for those of us that are currently confined to being armchair warriors, anyone else got any observations about either of the two boats, or even better, direct comparisons to each other, pros & cons?

I was getting hints re the Think Six being relatively flat bottomed which some people seem to like & some don't. I have no idea if it is really true or how the Six or V9 handle the bumps for the average punter.

I think Mark Sundin from Expedition Kayaks gets the odd chill down is spine from me overwatching his Youtube videos on these 2 skis too much. ;-)

Any info appreciated, even if it is just tips on what to look for when I finally get to test them.

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3 weeks 3 days ago #39067 by Salty Frog
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Some thoughts on Epic V9 in the forum for those who are looking:  www.surfski.info/forum/19-boats/20244-ep...st-paddle.html#39066

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1 day 8 hours ago - 1 day 8 hours ago #39159 by Salty Frog
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Finally got to try these two skis after lockdown ended.

I am a total noob having just done some paddling in an first generation V10 Sport in flat water before so that's the perspective I have.

I caught my first wave on my test paddle. Thanks to Mark Sundin from Expedition kayaks for getting me out there & showing me the ropes.

For me, the V9 was far easier to catch waves on. Didn't manage to catch any on the Six even with Mark's instruction. When things got messy, the V9 seemed far easier for me to handle. Paradoxically, when it was relatively calm, I felt more stable on the Six. Go figure.

Mark was saying that some people feel more stable on the V9, some on the Six.

I guess you need to get out there & test them to see which is best for you. I am going to get a V9 but long waiting time here in Sydney. Plenty of other people on the waiting list to buy one.

I'm still a bit surprised that there isn't more online buzz about these skis. I really liked both of them.

Going by the length of the waiting list for the V9, maybe everyone is spending their time buying & paddling skis rather than just talking about them online!
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13 hours 44 minutes ago - 9 hours 50 minutes ago #39163 by Atlas
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Hey Salty Frog. Your perception of the Six's stability isn't paradoxical. I haven't paddled the Six but from what I can tell it has a very boxy crossection and a flat hull under the cockpit. This gives such boats a lot of primary stability and relatively low secondary stability. These characteristics make the boat sit very flat on the surface of the water. This is fine on calm or gently moving water. It is also great when paddling perpendicular to clean, evenly spaced waves (they can surf brilliantly but they tend to slap when paddling into the waves). However, when you start dealing with waves coming at you beam on; it is a different story. Unless the paddler actively resists it: the flat bottomed hull will tend to follow the angle of the wave face until your centre of gravity is moved outboard of the centre of balance at which point you will capsize unless you brace. The low secondary stability inherent in most of these designs means that all of this can happen quite quickly. Some people adapt to such skis. I'm not a fan. It's the reason I got rid of my (otherwise very nice) Think Zen.
The V9 has a large radius curve under the mid section of the hull so it would not demonstrate the same stability profile. Having said that; this ski still has more primary stability and less secondary stability than more round hulled skis that are (roughly) in the same category. Having paddled a V9 extensively; I think Epic have a sensational ski in the V9. It may not quite be my cup of tea but it was close. However, I'm a very fussy bastard.
Neither the Six or the V9 is better or worse. They're just different.

Current skis:
Epic V10L Ultra, Carbonology Sport Boost LV X, Fenn Bluefin, Nelo 510, Fenn XT double

Previous skis
Spirit PRS, Fenn Swordfish, Fenn XT, Fenn Swordfish S, Think Zen, Epic V10L Club, Epic V9 Ultra, Carbonology Sport Boost LV.
Most with DK rudders.
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11 hours 45 minutes ago #39164 by Salty Frog
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Thanks for the insight Atlas.

I was going purely by feel without any real knowledge about the design.

The Think Six was  good looking & seemed like a more "serious" boat but the V9 was just more natural for me.

Like Mark was saying to me "Which one did you just start paddling & catch waves with straight away?" 

I reckon I'll be really happy with it when they finally come in.
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